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and sheriff’s offices in states. The hope was that the public outcry about the Laquan McDonald case would finally bring the Department of Justice to intervene in Chicago. I came to the Department of Justice in the kind of Golden Era, um, and I worked with a really amazing group of people I investigated departments ranging from New Orleans to Ferguson to Newark, New Jersey. In Chicago, we opened the formal investigation after Laquan McDonald was killed. Chicago was the largest team we’ve ever had, and we reviewed over Use of Force investigations, and that included investigations of officer-involved shootings. There’s never been the kind of wholesale change and reform needed from within Chicago, where you really have such strong local politics and such a strong police department. What we are looking at when we do one of these investigations? “Is this behavior aberrational? Or is it part of a normal pattern or practice?” In Chicago, the police officers still control the scene of a shooting and still conduct the initial questioning. Officers were not separated before they gave statements. Um, officers were allowed to speak to their union reps. They don’t prohibit officers, in any way, from cooking their stories. The FOP responded to the Laquan McDonald shooting as they respond to all police-involved shootings. So what we try to do is give the officers the benefit of the doubt and allow them to de-escalate, more or less. And. And to get some time away, collect your thoughts, meet with counsel, and then go forward and make their statement. Morning after, I get a phone call. I ask them, “How is everything?” Is everybody okay?” “Everybody’s okay.” “Is it a good shoot?” “It’s a good shoot.” We’re done. They ask officers to risk their careers when they get them all in a room together and say, “Hey, let’s all make sure we have our stories straight.” We’ve got a pretty good batting average. We would be the highest-paid player in that league, if it was salary, it was based on, uh, on wins. There were a lot of issues we found with officer statements in the Laquan McDonald case.